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  • #61
    Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

    Originally posted by ReggieB View Post
    I have been prepared to join a forum a couple of times because of some stupid statement, that sort of thing, but every time I have to sit back and remind myself how many people really are wrong on the internet, and how useless it is to fight with them. So there is no reason to get in to it. I think Kenton was in the right here, but to join a forum just to disagree with someone is kind of crazy. Thus, I try to avoid it.
    So I suppose we shouldn't send you the invite to join the Flat Earth Society Dedicated to Making the Internet Perfect in All Ways (FESDTMTIPIAW)?
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    • #62
      Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

      Originally posted by Bear View Post
      I find it is easy enough to find people to disagree with without needing to go out of my way to join a forum just to do it - then again that's probably just me ! Love the cartoon by the way Reggie - thanks !
      now you keep out of this - just because you were in at the begining doesn't mean it's your fight now

      FWIW (and that's probably less then 2c) I too read your post (that started this) with a little surprise. To have been whiter than white in my opinion (which of course there is no reason for you to consider relevant or important, I think I would have liked to see that you had contacted the seller one more time and offered to send back the package that had now turned up if he would send you a sum sufficent to cover the balance of your costs (sum paid out less amount credited by ebay) plus an amount in respect of your time plus insured registered deliver costs and an amount to cover your packaging time and costs.

      The problem with your post as you made is that it suggested that you had been refunded by ebay for an item not received, then you subsequently found it/it arrived.
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      • #63
        Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

        Perhaps my description was open to misinterpretation. The package was eventually found (not delivered). itt was damaged, some items were missing and the item was clearly not as described. I contacted the seller and asked to retun the lens for a refund. The seller refused. It was then I opened the claim through eBay (Item not as described). I did ask the seller to take back the item and refund me my money. I did not get what I wanted and the the seller did not provide what he offered. eBay accepted my side of the story and made a partial settlement. i was not asked to return the item.

        I appreciate that this transaction went wrong for both sides but do believe the right solution would have been for the seller to accept the return of the lens. I could not return it unilaterally without risking being out of pocket as well as out a lens. With a little co-operation it would have all ended better for both of us. eBay nade the decision on compensation without asking me for a suggested result.

        As for the suggestion that I should have made a partial payment for the lens, I reject this, even though I did make a partial payment. I didn't get what I thought I was buying, I don't see why I should be expected to pay anything for it. To simply have been able to return it would have settled matters.

        In retrospect, having re-read the original posts I think that perhaps I might hae been guily of gloating alittle and this may have offended some. I am sorry for this but I do not apologise for the outcome.

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        • #64
          Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

          does it for me

          I wouldn't have been so surprised at the earlier tone if I hadn't believed you to be the guy this post reflects (from previous posts and correspondence)
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          • #65
            Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

            In all honesty I think it is probably time to put this one to bed and move on - I thank all who have contributed whatever their opinion, after all it is the taking part that really matters. In this spirit let us all leave this one alone now and take part in what brings us all here in the first place - get out and take some photographs !

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            • #66
              Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

              Originally posted by Bear View Post
              In all honesty I think it is probably time to put this one to bed and move on - I thank all who have contributed whatever their opinion, after all it is the taking part that really matters. In this spirit let us all leave this one alone now and take part in what brings us all here in the first place - get out and take some photographs !
              Darn, just as things were starting to get interesting
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              • #67
                Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

                Only my opinion - feel free to carry on without me !

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                • #68
                  Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

                  Originally posted by Bear View Post
                  Only my opinion - feel free to carry on without me !
                  spoilsport
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                  • #69
                    Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

                    You are right Bear, enough has been said.......

                    Ian: can we have a lock on this one ?!

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                    • #70
                      Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

                      so i would be okay with the 50-200 non-swd on a e620. again, i don't do a lot of telephoto work, but i like to have it when i need it and having almost the best is good enough for me. i think.
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                      • #71
                        Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

                        Originally posted by NaturalWoman View Post
                        so i would be okay with the 50-200 non-swd on a e620. again, i don't do a lot of telephoto work, but i like to have it when i need it and having almost the best is good enough for me. i think.
                        I have the non-swd and it works pretty well on my E330 & E510. I've since bought an E3 and it works just a tad faster. I dare say it will be ok on the E620 unless you're needing the fastest speed possible.
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                        • #72
                          Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

                          Originally posted by WulfysKingdom View Post
                          I have the non-swd and it works pretty well on my E330 & E510. I've since bought an E3 and it works just a tad faster. I dare say it will be ok on the E620 unless you're needing the fastest speed possible.
                          cool. i decided to go with the non-swd version. found one for $679 usd. it was $712, but i got $34 off using an online code and free shipping. now i'm done for real. i will work with my three lenses.

                          thanks for your input.
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                          • #73
                            Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

                            Originally posted by NaturalWoman View Post
                            cool. i decided to go with the non-swd version. found one for $679 usd. it was $712, but i got $34 off using an online code and free shipping. now i'm done for real. i will work with my three lenses.

                            thanks for your input.
                            i just want to say i got my lens yesterday, the non-swd version and it. is. awesome. i'm glad i didn't get the swd, extra money, this thing is fast enough. produces beautiful images. heavy as ever, but my biceps will look great this summer.

                            this really could be my walk around lens. normally i keep my 50 on my 620, but the 50-200 will cover my out and about shots.

                            now i just need a gun license. i'm nervous about getting robbed.

                            oh and seriously, what am i going to do with the carrying case it came in, uh, i have a camera bag. it's nice, but does anyone ever use it? it's in the closet.
                            Last edited by NaturalWoman; 23rd March 2010, 08:31 PM. Reason: more talk, jack!
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                            • #74
                              Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

                              Originally posted by NaturalWoman View Post
                              i just want to say i got my lens yesterday, the non-swd version and it. is. awesome. i'm glad i didn't get the swd, extra money, this thing is fast enough. produces beautiful images. heavy as ever, but my biceps will look great this summer.

                              this really could be my walk around lens. normally i keep my 50 on my 620, but the 50-200 will cover my out and about shots.

                              now i just need a gun license. i'm nervous about getting robbed.

                              oh and seriously, what am i going to do with the carrying case it came in, uh, i have a camera bag. it's nice, but does anyone ever use it? it's in the closet.
                              The bag is useful as a small camera bag for when you want to carry a small number of extras with your camera separate (rather than carry a large bag). Probably best to mothball it in case you ever decide to trade up to the SWD!

                              The old and new versions are very, very good optically.. The old version, in some situations can seem faster to focus. The SWD version really comes into its own with C-AF on fast objects (e.g. when I photograph birds in flight like falcons). A friend with a Nikon D300 and a pretty good Sigma lens tried my E-3 and 50-200SWD and was amazed at the incredible refocussing speed of this combo. Which was a shame, because up until then I had her convinced it was all my skill!

                              Andy
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                              • #75
                                Re: Comparing the Digital Zuiko 50-200 old and new

                                Andy, I'm sure that there's a whole lot more of your skill involved than you will ever admit to.

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