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  • What does this all mean??? G# GF# GX, GH, etc.

    Does anyone know if these Letters stand for any words.. it gets really confusing... G5 - GF5, FX, FX, L, LC. LS, LX, etc., etc. Is there any sense to any of it?

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    Re: What does this all mean G# GF# GX, GH, etc.

    There is.. Panasonic now have 4 lines of cameras:
    SLR-shaped GH (more expensive, better specs) and G (less expensive)
    Compact camera shaped GX (more expensive, better specs) and GF (less expensive)

    You can see their "plan" on these pictures (just scroll down, it's there).

    To me, it makes more sense than Olympus line consisting of:
    E-M ... the OM-D, so far only 1 model, that offers 2 rollers, but too few buttons to be used comfortably and it's ergonomy needs to be improved a LOT in next model
    E-P ... good specs, roller, but few buttons
    E-PL ... similar specs as E-P, no roller
    E-PM ...no roller, almost no buttons
    ..all of these are tricky to hold firmly
    Regards, Pavel.

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    • #3
      Re: What does this all mean G# GF# GX, GH, etc.

      Originally posted by T-Lama View Post
      There is.. Panasonic now have 4 lines of cameras:
      SLR-shaped GH (more expensive, better specs) and G (less expensive)
      Compact camera shaped GX (more expensive, better specs) and GF (less expensive)

      You can see their "plan" on these pictures (just scroll down, it's there).

      To me, it makes more sense than Olympus line consisting of:
      E-M ... the OM-D, so far only 1 model, that offers 2 rollers, but too few buttons to be used comfortably and it's ergonomy needs to be improved a LOT in next model
      E-P ... good specs, roller, but few buttons
      E-PL ... similar specs as E-P, no roller
      E-PM ...no roller, almost no buttons
      ..all of these are tricky to hold firmly
      Neither Panasonic nor Olympus has done a very good job of explaining the designation differences to the average buyers. Somewhat obscure to very obscure naming conventions for cameras is clearly a tradition in the photographic industry. Once a given design heritage is established, the naming within that given heritage usually is easier to understand. One also has to deal with the same models getting different designations between the different markets (these usually mean different designations in Japan compared to the rest of the world).

      It is only recently that I have seen the explanation from Panasonic at all! And I've been following the 4/3 and m4/3 from the beginnings of each. Quite likely it was out there and I just didn't see it, or at least recognize it. I re-emphasize that both companies do a poor job here.

      As far as which company has better ergonomics, I've seen strong beliefs both ways. A lot seems to depend on both a given user's previous camera experiences and on the size of one's hands and fingers :-)

      Nothing beats getting one of the cameras one is interested in using and actually taking some shots with it in one's hands and practicing making adjustments!

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      • #4
        Re: What does this all mean G# GF# GX, GH, etc.

        My take is this; there are four product families in the Panasonic G Micro line up of Micro Four Thirds cameras:

        G - the original form factor primarily for stills photography and featuring an integrated electronic viewfinder.

        GH - the premium line with particular emphasis on motion video capability and professional stills/video use.

        GF - compact and lightweight models that don't incorporate an electronic viewfinder, aimed at people upgrading from a compact camera.

        GX - compact and lightweight models that offer an optional electronic viewinder and include a flash hot shoes plus more advanced features for more serious photographers than a GF model.

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        • #5
          Re: What does this all mean G# GF# GX, GH, etc.

          There is SOME sense to the Olympus naming

          E-P - Top Pen model (Pens have a flat top and no integrated viewfinder, at least not to date!)

          E-PL - Pen Lite, smaller and lighter than an E-P and at a lower price means less advanced features.

          E-PM - Pen Mini, the smallest and lightest and lowest price so less features than the E-P and E-PL and with a simplified user interface (although all Pen models can be configured for the more functional super control panel user interface).

          E-M - I'll be honest I don't know what 'M' really stands for but my guess is 'Micro' and represents Micro Four Thirds models with built in electronic viewfinder that is aimed at E-System DSLR users.

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          • #6
            Re: What does this all mean G# GF# GX, GH, etc.

            Thanks everyone, that helps quite a bit, though the letters don't seem to stand for any words then, unless they are taken from the Japanese? So I guess it's a matter of memorizing them.

            Ian:
            You said the GF series doesn't incorporate an electronic viewfinder and that the GX offers an optional one plus a flash shoe, but my GF1 does have a flash shoe and I have the optional LVF1 viewfinder, similar to the GX setup though not as high res. But I noticed on the GF2 and 3 they dropped the hot shoe and the EV option.

            The only major differences I see between my GF1 and the GX is the higher 16mp and all the improvements in image noise, etc., that it introduces, a higher res EV optional unit, touch screen controls, and the addition of higher res video along with mpeg ability and stereo,

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            • #7
              Re: What does this all mean G# GF# GX, GH, etc.

              Yes the GF1 had a rather unimpressive EVF (my opinion!) and this was dropped for the GF3 - indeed the whole flash shoe disappeared. The GX1 is basically an updated GF1 and so we should regard the GF3 onwards as a new strategy while the GX1 is the GF1 descendant.

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              • #8
                Re: What does this all mean G# GF# GX, GH, etc.

                OK, thanks Ian

                Down the road I may update to the GF6, it looks pretty good.

                Is the much more expensive power zoom lens option mainly for video use so that you can get smoother zooms while filming?

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                • #9
                  Re: What does this all mean G# GF# GX, GH, etc.

                  Originally posted by doane2u View Post
                  OK, thanks Ian

                  Down the road I may update to the GF6, it looks pretty good.

                  Is the much more expensive power zoom lens option mainly for video use so that you can get smoother zooms while filming?
                  Yes, the 45-175 power zoom is primarily designed with video use in mind, although it works fine as a still photography lens.

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                  • #10
                    Re: What does this all mean G# GF# GX, GH, etc.

                    For the difference in the price of the 14-45mm regular and power zoom lens it looks like you could buy a fairly decent HD video recorder and just use that for filming, maybe not though...

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                    • #11
                      Re: What does this all mean G# GF# GX, GH, etc.

                      Here in the UK the prices for the 45-150 and 45-175 X PZ are £220 and £330 respectively, on average. You can indeed get a discounted Panasonic 1080HD camcorder for as little as £140, but not with the benefits of the big sensors in Micro Four Thirds, etc.

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                      • #12
                        Customer confusion and the Chivas syndrome

                        Originally posted by mhobart View Post
                        Neither Panasonic nor Olympus has done a very good job of explaining the designation differences to the average buyers....
                        Off topic, but all technology corporations do this because consumer confusion causes the average person to spend more money than necessary. The average person gets confused by all the features and ironically, instead of buying the less expensive camera with fewer features, he buys the more expensive feature laden camera and justifies it with, "it must be better" or "I will figure it out later".

                        There is also the "Chivas Regal syndrome." where the consumer assumes "It must be better if it cost more."

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