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    I have noticed that it sometimes takes a while for the camera to take the picture after pressing the shutter. This happens when taking indoor pictures using flash - before taking the picture there are a series of small flashes. This is not good when trying to take pictures of people or candid pics. Can anybody enlighten me as to what this is and if I can stop it, I have looked in the manual but cannot find anything. Thank you in advance.
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    Re: Time taken to take picture.

    This is the "AF illumination" which should help the auto-focus in low light.
    unfortunately, this can not be switched off for the internal flash.
    I have the "flash auto popup" set to "off", so the flash won't popup when the camera thinks it's needed. But once you have popped up the flash, the AF illumination starts to work.

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    • #3
      Re: Time taken to take picture.

      Originally posted by shirley View Post
      I have noticed that it sometimes takes a while for the camera to take the picture after pressing the shutter. This happens when taking indoor pictures using flash - before taking the picture there are a series of small flashes. This is not good when trying to take pictures of people or candid pics. Can anybody enlighten me as to what this is and if I can stop it, I have looked in the manual but cannot find anything. Thank you in advance.
      Marco is right - ensure that the flash pop-up option is switched off. This will ensure no unwanted AF-assist strobing will distract your subject. If you find AF is not very reliable in low light, I would recommend pre-focusing in manual focus mode.

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      • #4
        Re: Time taken to take picture.

        Thank you to both of you. I have tried your suggestions and it certainly seems to solve the problem. I do have a supplementary question, does this mean that it is not possible to use the flash without the AF illumination unless I manually focus.
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        • #5
          Re: Time taken to take picture.

          Originally posted by shirley View Post
          Thank you to both of you. I have tried your suggestions and it certainly seems to solve the problem. I do have a supplementary question, does this mean that it is not possible to use the flash without the AF illumination unless I manually focus.
          I don't have an E-400 with me at this very moment to check, but look through the menus for 'AF ILLUMINAT' - you should be able to switch this off so the flash no longer strobes during AF even when it is popped up. So you should be able to auto focus with the flash ready but without the distracting pre-flashes.

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          • #6
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            I have scrolled through all the menus and cannot find 'AF illumination' do you think this means I cannot turn it off?
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            • #7
              Re: Time taken to take picture.

              yes, as I said in my first answer, the AF illumination cannot be switched off. This means, once you pop open the flash, it'll use the strobing for AF..

              tip: get an FL-36, it's a very nice flash to go with the e400

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              • #8
                Re: Time taken to take picture.

                Aah so it doesnt do this with an external flash?
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                • #9
                  Re: Time taken to take picture.

                  nope, only with the internal flash (luckily)

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                  • #10
                    Re: Time taken to take picture.

                    Originally posted by shirley View Post
                    I have scrolled through all the menus and cannot find 'AF illumination' do you think this means I cannot turn it off?
                    Hmmm, just got my E-400 out and had a look and at the manual, it doesn't obviously appear that you can turn the AF illuminator (pre-flash) off You can with the E-500, E-410 and E-510 I'm pretty sure

                    Give me some time and I'll see if I can find a definitive answer.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Time taken to take picture.

                      Originally posted by Ian View Post
                      Give me some time and I'll see if I can find a definitive answer.

                      Ian
                      don't bother.. you can not switch this off. The only way to prevent the AF flashing is to not use the internal flash at all.

                      Another thing to add to my e-400 "needs a firmware update" petition list

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                      • #12
                        Re: Time taken to take picture.

                        Originally posted by marcof View Post
                        yes, as I said in my first answer, the AF illumination cannot be switched off. This means, once you pop open the flash, it'll use the strobing for AF..

                        tip: get an FL-36, it's a very nice flash to go with the e400
                        Ah, sorry Marco - didn't see your original answer

                        The external flash like an FL-36 can shine a red AF assist light, but I think that can be turned off - it's much less obtrusive than strobing though.

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                        • #13
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                          Thanks Ian and Marco. I am clear on this now. Birthday coming up, external flash is on the list I have looked at them before and notice there are several versions do you know anything about each one and the difference.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Time taken to take picture.

                            Originally posted by shirley View Post
                            Thanks Ian and Marco. I am clear on this now. Birthday coming up, external flash is on the list I have looked at them before and notice there are several versions do you know anything about each one and the difference.
                            The FL-36 suits the E-400 well as it's relatively compact (and it's much less expensive than the FL-50). You could even consider an FL-20 if you don't need bounce flash.

                            Some Metz units are Four Thirds compatible - it's well worth having a look at their range as well.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Time taken to take picture.

                              regarding Metz options:
                              - Mecablitz MZ 44 AF 4-o is a nice dedicated flash, supports full FP and TTL, doesn't have the rotating head, and some units have their IR field mis-aligned (my unit has this issue.. no problem when it's not too dark, in darker areas this can become a problem if the target is nearby). It's a lot quicker for a full-recharge than the FL-36 due to 4 batteries iso 2.

                              - the new mecablitz 58 AF-1 digital is now also available for olympus. This is probably the best flash available at the moment. it has more power than the FL-55 and can be updated with USB as well. It also has a nice little extra flash for those occasions when you're using the main flash for bounce.

                              If you're budget allows, the latter metz is a great choice. The best physical match with the E-400 is the FL-36, here's a picture of my e-400+14-42+FL-36:

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