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  • New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

    Good day.
    I am a potential new Olympus user and currently is about to sell of my D300, Sigma 70-200 and 50/1.4, among many others.
    I need some advice on either I should go for E3 or waiting for E-30. I consider myself a serious non-professional level and in my lucky case, money is not a consideration. (In Taiwan where I resides, E-3brand new pricing is tumbling like the stock market-why?)
    I welcome any suggestion to help me to make a decision. I have made up my mind on choice of lenses. It is only the camera body that I am having some 'sleepless night' Thanks much.

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    Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

    I have the E-3 and prefer it to the E-30 but it may serve you well.
    Bill Shinnick
    Pana GH1; 14-140.

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    • #3
      Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

      Hi Celestar -

      I too have an E-3 but I rather like the E-30 having had the opportunity of using it twice now, the second time under studio conditions which gave the pix very good results especially when using the 'pop' settings.
      However, if you were to ask which one I would choose I think it would be the E-3 on one hand and the E-30 in the other.

      A difficult choice to make - but the E-3 is a really great camera IMHO.

      Regards. Barr1e

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      • #4
        Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

        I'm not going to get rid of my E-3 for an E-30 even if it is better. I already have invested in it and it has a few years of use in it yet. I'm also not going to get rid of my E-510 for the same reasons. If I didn't have a camera already and was looking to Olympus, I fully imagine that I would go with the E-30 as it has almost all of the E-3 features and appears to benefit from a years worth of improvements in technology.

        Particularly valuable to me would be the lack of banding at high ISO even if the E-30 doesn't provide any advantage in image quality at these settings. The E-30 is cheaper than the E-3 and can be used with a vertical grip.The only reason that I can see for myself, if I were to choose the E-3 - - - would be for its weather proofing (a good hunk of my professional shooting is in adverse conditions). I really don't know how the weather sealing would benefit 90% of photographers using dslr's for normal use. Most cameras we can buy from other manufacturers, don't have any weather sealing - - - and we'd be happy with them.
        INSTAGRAM - @rswpix

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        • #5
          Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

          Curious that you're coming to Olympus from Nikon. Any reason you're not looking at the D700...?
          John
          Olympus UK Forum
          E-3 | E-510 |
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          • #6
            Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

            I certainly won't be trading my E3 for an E30. The E3 meets or surpasses my needs and/or expectations in every area. I might, if I have the cash available, trade my E510 back-up for and E30 to use for the same purpose.

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            • #7
              Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

              Curious that you're coming to Olympus from Nikon. Any reason you're not looking at the D700...?
              I switched back to Olympus last year and maintained both systems before purchasing the E-3 this spring with my choices being the D300 and E-3. After testing both cameras, it was a toss up which I chose, and so I went with my love of Olympus gear with the E-3 - - - the feel and the jpg colors and quality. The D3 and D700 came out later. Fact is that I am not interested in that price range of camera and the heavy investment in expensive glass that is expected with it. I would also need an additional D700 body as the D300 would not likely have been suitable for that.

              I got the identical professional image results stylistically from my Olympus film and later my Nikon film cameras, my 2 heavily used Nikon D70's, my D200 and and up until a few months ago my D40 Nikon DSLR cameras - a D300, D700 or D3 would not change the look of my imagery one bit. I actually still use my E-510 on most of my professional assignments. I like small and compact. Other thing is that I could have some incredible Olympus glass that Nikon didn't have - and have it for less money. Just personal preference - - - I have nothing against Nikon or the D700. It's a nice camera and produces nice results at higher ISO's. Cameras and photo gear don't mean a whole lot to me - - - they are tools to get the job at hand done, and if they feel right in the process and don't fail me often then I'm happy.
              INSTAGRAM - @rswpix

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              • #8
                Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

                Hi Barrie,
                I am inclining more towards E-30 and I just need to pull back my impatience at not seeing one yet.
                Coming from the electronics part of the profession, I got to think that E-30 can benefit from some more improvement. Also, the choice of the art filter is very attractive for me. You would think that E30 would be cheaper than E3 brand new but in Taiwan, the E3 price is keep tumbling down to almost insane level. Which further prompts me to think a newer improved E3 must be close to be released? Maybe a better LCD screen, perhap?
                What is your opinion about the collection of lens I should consider?
                Below is two groups, and I look forward to your comments if you can.

                Group A:
                12-60SWD
                50-200SWD
                70-300
                150/2

                Group B
                14-42 (probably a kit lens with E30, I think)
                40-150
                70-300
                150/2

                I know pricing wise, the two group is not even close but the fact is that Oly consumer grade lens having such a rave review makes me ponder if I need to go for the high grade. The high grade lenses from Oly is not that much heavier so weight is not a factor of my consideration. It boils down to, if the additonal money is worthwhile to get back how much more image performance improvement, if any.

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                • #9
                  Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

                  Ignoring the 70-300 and 150 as they are psrt of both groups. The choice is 14-42 v 12-60 and 40-150 v 50-200. The kit lenses are fine in fact they are better than almost all other kit lenses on the market but they are built to a price. In every situation and by all performance metrics the 12-60 and 50-200 are better. They are both pro grade lenses with weather sealing, they are faster, they focus faster and quieter with the SWD motors and have superior optics. Plus the combo gives a the focal length range of 12-200 as aooposed to 14-150. Those extra mm do come in handy.

                  However, ultimately it is not about which are the better lenses. it is about do you think you can justify the extra cost for the extra performance. I could and did. I owned the 14-42 and 40-150 and was very pleased with the results. When I bought my E3 I upgraded to the 12-60 and 50-200 and was blown away by the performance in combination with the E3.

                  The decision is yours but I know what I would do - I did it !

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                  • #10
                    Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

                    I agree with Bear, I also bought the 12-60 and 50-200 after owning the kit lenses. The extra 2mm at the wide end gets used more than the extra 18mm at the top end which surprised me as I thought it was going to be the other way and the 2.8 min aperture is nice too, I have no regrets upgrading to the more expensive lenses.

                    Paul
                    GH-3, OM-D, 7-14, 12-35, 35-100, 100-300, 25, 60 macro, 40-150 Pro.

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                    • #11
                      Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

                      Originally posted by theMusicMan View Post
                      Curious that you're coming to Olympus from Nikon. Any reason you're not looking at the D700...?
                      I have no doubt that the Nikon D700 is a very fine camera, but it's a full frame camera and for all the benefits that brings, it also brings some notable disadvantages in size and weight.

                      Look at the Nikkor 24-120 f/3.5-5.6 - 77 x 94mm and 575g weight.

                      The equivalent Zuiko Digital 12-60 f/2.8-4.0 is 79.5 x 98.5mm, only marginally larger, and the same 575g in weight, but it's 2/3rds to a full stop brighter through the zoom range. The Olympus lens can also focus nearly a foot closer as well.

                      The Zuiko Digital 9-18mm f/4-5.6 is significantly shorter, lighter, and more slim than the equivalent Nikkor 18-35 f/3.5-4.5.

                      But it's in telephoto lenses that Four Thirds really makes a difference.

                      The ZD 50-200 f/2.8-3.5, at 995g (not including its tripod collar) is almost half a kilo lighter than the 80-400 f/4.5-5.6 Nikkor, and and yet the 50-200 is 1.3 stops brighter through the range.

                      If you thnk that's a big difference, how about the Zuiko Digital 40-150 f/4-5.6 compared to the Nikkor 70-300 f/4.5-5.6. The Nikkor measures 80 x 143.5mm, the Digital Zuiko is 65.5 x 72mm (half as long!) and the Nikkor weighs 745g compared to 220g (less than a third of the weight) for the Olympus lens - despite the Zuiko being a third of a stop faster at the short end of the zoom.

                      It goes on - compare the Zuiko Digital 150mm f/2 with the Nikkor 300mm f/2.8. The Zuiko is a stop brighter but at 1.465kg (minus tripod collar) it's practically half the weight of the Nikkor and it's 11.8cm shorter.

                      Total weight of a D700 with grip and 600mm f/4D ED-IF AF-S II NIKKOR, 7.4kg, compares with 4.6kg for an E-3 with grip and Zuiko Digital 300mm f/2.8 - and the Olympus outfit packs a lens with a whole stop extra brightness to boot. In fact the E-3 and lens is 1.3 kilos lighter than the Nikkor lens on its own. The total difference is over 6lbs and the Nikkor 600 is 16cm longer than the Zuiko 300.

                      Food for thought, eh?

                      Ian
                      Founder/editor
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                      • #12
                        Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

                        Originally posted by CELESTAR View Post
                        Hi Barrie,
                        I am inclining more towards E-30 and I just need to pull back my impatience at not seeing one yet.
                        Coming from the electronics part of the profession, I got to think that E-30 can benefit from some more improvement. Also, the choice of the art filter is very attractive for me. You would think that E30 would be cheaper than E3 brand new but in Taiwan, the E3 price is keep tumbling down to almost insane level. Which further prompts me to think a newer improved E3 must be close to be released? Maybe a better LCD screen, perhap?
                        What is your opinion about the collection of lens I should consider?
                        Below is two groups, and I look forward to your comments if you can.

                        Group A:
                        12-60SWD
                        50-200SWD
                        70-300
                        150/2

                        Group B
                        14-42 (probably a kit lens with E30, I think)
                        40-150
                        70-300
                        150/2

                        I know pricing wise, the two group is not even close but the fact is that Oly consumer grade lens having such a rave review makes me ponder if I need to go for the high grade. The high grade lenses from Oly is not that much heavier so weight is not a factor of my consideration. It boils down to, if the additonal money is worthwhile to get back how much more image performance improvement, if any.
                        I would consider following combination:
                        12-60 & 50-200 as all round lenses - I do have this two great lenses along with my E-3 and am really pleased with their performance. And the range 12-200 ( 24-400 ) it is offering is great for 95% of what i shoot.
                        and 150/2 with EC1.4x + EC2.0x for quality long focal length work ( it is my dreamed combination which I can not afford just yet, but in the future who knows...) small, light yet powerful kit compared to other system options. (300/2, 420/2.8, 600/4 all in less then 2kg - correct me if I am wrong)

                        kosta

                        P.S. Hello all of you fantastic 4/3 fa ns

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                        • #13
                          Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

                          I also had the two kit lenses and their upmarket equivalents. I thought the kit lenses would be the one used for normal day to day and holidys stuff as I like small and light equipment but in fact the 12-60 is rarely off the camera, and then only to make way for the 50-200. I have just given the 40-150mm away my son who is getting an e420 for Christmas since I used it so little.

                          One omission from your list is the superb 50mm macro - a very highly rated lens.

                          Glass is usually a better investment than bodies in the digital camera world I think

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                          • #14
                            Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

                            I would look for a pre owned E3 as I see them in the $1050 range,, a new software update is forthcoming for the E3 and it will cover some of the E-30 items,,

                            Derry

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                            • #15
                              Re: New Olympus User: E30 vs E3

                              Originally posted by Robert Watcher View Post
                              I really don't know how the weather sealing would benefit 90% of photographers using dslr's for normal use. Most cameras we can buy from other manufacturers, don't have any weather sealing - - - and we'd be happy with them.
                              The weather sealing set people on the wrong foot so to speak. Also wet hands, wet forehead in summer or the dust in very dry air needs a system which is protected. I lost two complete sets because of the lack of seals. Formerly camera's where just more mechanic, today they are more electronic with very tiny components. A droplet of water was in former days not a problem, with today's components the wires are so close together that small droplets are enough for short circuiting. The very fine dust can penetrate the body and damage functions like IS, mirror mechanisms and so on. I don't know if people with cameras without weather sealing are happy.

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